Judge's Insight - Guild Wars Forums

Zarconis · May 06, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09

I apologize up front I have no hard data on this, this is just a general observation.

Judges insight only changes your damage to holy and gives you plus 20% penetration.

Here's some questions.

1. I've been using this skill over and over and I actually think my damage goes down!!? Can anyone help ? Ensign where are you?

2. Another one I'm sure Ensign knows

If your damage is changed to holy which supposedly ignores armor why is the +20% armor penetration beneficial ? Or rather how does this add to the damage ? I can obviously see applications against armour that has + Holy Damage coverage, but I haven't seen any armor like that.

JAGeAkurei · May 09, 2005, 12:58 AM // 00:58

slight tangent, but the description on the spell is a bit more vague than most.

"target ally's attacks"

They mean melee attacks right? spells don't convert to holy correct?

ask because other spells in that line, for example Strength of Honor clearly states "deals 1-8 more damage in melee"

provoko · Jun 10, 2005, 11:02 PM // 23:02

I feel the topics question wasn't answered. Instead of posting my own thread with the same question can someone answer it please, to clarify the question is:

Why does Judge's Insight add holy dmg AND armor penetration when holy ignores armor?

Vermilion Okeanos · Jun 10, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Holy damage does not = ignore armor...

The only reason the monk smiting skills ignore armor is because it was built into the skill that it ignore armor... When your weapon change into an element... the only thing it do is being more effective on someone with lower resistance to it, and less effective against someone who has high resistance to it.

When you change into holy, you will do 2x damage on undead... however, you will not be having armor ignoring damage on your weapon... just the 20% armor penetration.

Jun 10, 2005, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Holy damage doesnt ignore armor, it's another form of elemental damage. However, some of the smiting skills ignore armor and just happen to do holy damage

Spells dont benefit from Judge's Insight, only melee or ranged attacks and attack skills.

If you're damage is going down(very odd if it does) that means you must be hitting something with high resistance to holy damage.

provoko · Jun 10, 2005, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos

your weapon change into an element

Thats what I thought. Makes lots of sense now. Holy from spells ignores armor, but weapons, no matter what their type is, don't ignore armor.

Thanks.

Eclair · Jun 10, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Hmm, are you sure holy damage is considered "elemental" damage? If it is, shouldn't Lifebond trigger Stormchaser? I've tested it and it seems lifebond does not trigger stormchaser, so =/

May 06, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#1
Zarconis Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta,GA	Judge's Insight I apologize up front I have no hard data on this, this is just a general observation. Judges insight only changes your damage to holy and gives you plus 20% penetration. Here's some questions. 1. I've been using this skill over and over and I actually think my damage goes down!!? Can anyone help ? Ensign where are you? 2. Another one I'm sure Ensign knows If your damage is changed to holy which supposedly ignores armor why is the +20% armor penetration beneficial ? Or rather how does this add to the damage ? I can obviously see applications against armour that has + Holy Damage coverage, but I haven't seen any armor like that.

May 09, 2005, 12:58 AM // 00:58	#2
JAGeAkurei Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dark Side of The Moon Guild: DEUS	slight tangent, but the description on the spell is a bit more vague than most. "target ally's attacks" They mean melee attacks right? spells don't convert to holy correct? ask because other spells in that line, for example Strength of Honor clearly states "deals 1-8 more damage in melee" Last edited by JAGeAkurei; May 09, 2005 at 01:15 AM // 01:15..

Jun 10, 2005, 11:02 PM // 23:02	#3
provoko Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Profession: R/Me	I feel the topics question wasn't answered. Instead of posting my own thread with the same question can someone answer it please, to clarify the question is: Why does Judge's Insight add holy dmg AND armor penetration when holy ignores armor?

Jun 10, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08	#4
Vermilion Okeanos Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005	Holy damage does not = ignore armor... The only reason the monk smiting skills ignore armor is because it was built into the skill that it ignore armor... When your weapon change into an element... the only thing it do is being more effective on someone with lower resistance to it, and less effective against someone who has high resistance to it. When you change into holy, you will do 2x damage on undead... however, you will not be having armor ignoring damage on your weapon... just the 20% armor penetration.

Jun 10, 2005, 11:09 PM // 23:09	#5
Blackace Guest	Holy damage doesnt ignore armor, it's another form of elemental damage. However, some of the smiting skills ignore armor and just happen to do holy damage Spells dont benefit from Judge's Insight, only melee or ranged attacks and attack skills. If you're damage is going down(very odd if it does) that means you must be hitting something with high resistance to holy damage.

Jun 10, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#7
Eclair Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005	Hmm, are you sure holy damage is considered "elemental" damage? If it is, shouldn't Lifebond trigger Stormchaser? I've tested it and it seems lifebond does not trigger stormchaser, so =/